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kevin01041961
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:14 am Post subject: frost damage |
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Hi everyone ! help and suggestions required, last weekend took the caravan away only to find once set up all and i do mean all the taps had blown due to frost !!!! the taps had been left open and the system bled or so i thought ?
now the caravan is in for service and replacement of said taps so how can i prevent this happerning again although we don't normally have 2 foot of snow and -15 temperatures your help required please |
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Hi David, Am i right in thinking your van has a Flojet on board water pump? if so during the drain down process, you need to disconnect the water pipes either side of the pump (quick fit fittings), then run the pump, otherwise this type of pump retains about a cup of water, which if it freezes will crack the pump, which is not covered by warrenty. The instruction will be in your owner manual. |
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hi David, Am i right in thinking your van has a Flojet on board water pump? if so during the drain down process, you need to disconnect the water pipes either side of the pump (quick fit fittings), then run the pump, otherwise this type of pump retains about a cup of water, which if it freezes will crack the pump, which is not covered by warrenty. The instruction will be in your owner manual.
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George
Must admit I missed that so will have to check to see if there is any damage, thanks for the warning. I am not very mobile at the moment as I had my right hip replaced 3 weeks ago so it might have to wait before I can check.
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hi David, Am i right in thinking your van has a Flojet on board water pump? if so during the drain down process, you need to disconnect the water pipes either side of the pump (quick fit fittings), then run the pump, otherwise this type of pump retains about a cup of water, which if it freezes will crack the pump, which is not covered by warrenty. The instruction will be in your owner manual.
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George
Must admit I missed that so will have to check to see if there is any damage, thanks for the warning. I am not very mobile at the moment as I had my right hip replaced 3 weeks ago so it might have to wait before I can check.
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Hi David, hope you are back to 100% health very soon.
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Klyne
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Klyne wrote:
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| metz wrote:
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Hi David, Am i right in thinking your van has a Flojet on board water pump? if so during the drain down process, you need to disconnect the water pipes either side of the pump (quick fit fittings), then run the pump, otherwise this type of pump retains about a cup of water, which if it freezes will crack the pump, which is not covered by warrenty. The instruction will be in your owner manual.
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George
Must admit I missed that so will have to check to see if there is any damage, thanks for the warning. I am not very mobile at the moment as I had my right hip replaced 3 weeks ago so it might have to wait before I can check.
David
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Hi David, hope you are back to 100% health very soon.
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Thanks Bob, I am making progress but using the van is still a couple of months away at the earliest.
After reading what George had said I just had to check! First time I had been in the van since the op. There is no obvious sign of any water leakage and the pump still works but of course its not under any system pressure so fingers crossed.
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Halli
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Caravan in for service at present and I've been told that the tap in the bathroom is cracked due to frost damage. I did drain down before leaving the last site of the year and kept the taps open, although this may be after I had removed the battery - does this matter?
The dealer said that they had "loads" of similar problems this year - presumably because of the severity of the winter. We'll see how my new Bailey Pegasus performs next year.
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ubuntu1
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:24 am Post subject: water water everywhere |
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I service caravans and I have not seen anything like this before. People who have had caravans for many years have been caught out this year for the first time. Even though they have drained their van the water has still managed to crack taps and water pumps.
I think that you have to put it down to experience and next year try doubly hard to remove the last traces of water from the system. I run a portable oil filled radiator in the very coldest months just to stop freezing inside of the van. |
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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When I drain down I leave the taps open and then blow down the taps to get rid of any excess water. The best way as mentioned earlier is to drain hot water system and open taps as you leave the last camp-site for home. That way the ups and downs of travelling gets rid of all the water.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Not a problem Halli, we all learn from our slight mistakes. Thats why the forum is here. Helps us all out. Things I might not know and you lot do, etc.
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TykeInASwift
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: |
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I didn't drain my system properly (or, indeed, at all) the first year I had a caravan (2008) and, fortunately, the worst I suffered was a pipe had popped off a push fit connection with a tap.
Last winter I was very careful and gave it a good clear out. The only issue I had this spring is a slight drip from an old tap that could do with a new O-ring anyway.
Anyone who had to learn that lesson this winter has my sympathy - it was much worse.
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